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  • #46
    great video!! always better from your viewpoint!!! perhaps i won't post my tiny tablet video shaking in the wind!

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    • #47
      People are saying Big Red is scheduled to sail today.

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      • #48
        People?

        Your people, my people, other people, important people....?

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        • #49
          people in the know. am watching the cams and NO sight of anything or anyone. hoping they bring it north of BB if they DO sail. only 6kts wind BUT looks quite calm. great day for AC72 pixs!! thanks for the heads-up!!

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          • #50
            anyone with a smartfone who can actually VERIFY when they depart the base so i can see online if they DO come NORTH of BB and not just sail in south bay as they have done the last few times? thanks in advance

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            • #51
              Originally posted by familysailor View Post
              People?

              Your people, my people, other people, important people....?
              Wrong people, they didn't go out today.

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              • #52
                Musta been the disinformation people...........

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                • #53
                  no biggie. at last minute went out but didnt see them. snapped too many things, talked to some very fotogenic tourists (waiting for a contact this weekend hopefully) and then caught the sunset. people were talking about a flaming sunset... where? ah didn't see any!! only had my elephant lens - sigh

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                  • #54
                    PAUL CAYARD: FULL COURT PRESS
                    Following their recent tuning sessions with America's Cup defender Oracle Team USA, Swedish challenger Artemis Racing announced they had halted their AC72 sailing program and would be proceeding with modifications to the boat. Considering that Artemis Racing is the only team that does not have a fully foiling boat, it was time to check in with team CEO Paul Cayard. Here's what Paul shared with Scuttlebutt's Craig Leweck:
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                    Sailing against Oracle was a full-scale verification that we needed to make some pretty big changes, and that's what we are doing. We are taking it on. The good news is that we learned this in February and not in July. So we have some time to react. But we need to commit more to foiling.

                    When discussing foiling, it is important to understand that it is not black and white. It is a spectrum, and what we are really saying when we say 'foiling' is that we are reducing displacement of the boat. The lifting occurs through the foils on the rudder and the daggerboard design. On a spectrum between zero and the full weight of the boat, a fully foiling boat is lifting the full weight of the boat.

                    Our boat had J boards, and while they lift a percentage of our displacement, they do not lift all of it. The game of foiling is trading off the drag associated with the boards. The fully foiling boats use L boards, but both the surface area of these boards, and the tightness of the L board angle, create more drag than the J board. However, they also cause more lift.

                    So each team's design tools predicted what the cost of the drag would be, and what the benefit of the lift would be, and it is fair to say that we got it wrong. So now we are reacting. Our team has come together, and is fully committed to tackling this issue full on.

                    Some of the aspects of the L boards that we will need to discover is their impact on maneuverability and downspeed acceleration. This had been a concern of ours, but our experience training with Oracle Team USA is that their L boards didn't' seem to be much of a hindrance, if any. This factored in our decision to make the modifications to our boats.

                    In parallel, we are converting an AC45 to begin training sooner on a fully foiling boat. This will help fill the gap as our second boat is still a few months away, so this will give us a training platform for March. The end game is to be race ready by the start of the challenger trials in July and that's where we are headed.

                    As for our changes, it is fair to say that we are going to be building a fully foiling boat. This will require a redesign of our boards and board cases, and rudders. It is a complete package once you go down that road. Boat #1 is now in the shed for three weeks, but we are doing work in some other areas, and are eager to get back on the water. It will not be a fully foiling boat when we re-launch. To fully convert this boat would keep us off the water for too long.

                    However, our second boat will now have a fully foiling package. The boat was already designed with greater foiling lift, and was very close to having full foiling ability. We called it skimming, wherein it was expected to lift roughly 80% of the hull's displacement, meaning the hull is barely touching the water. But now that boat will have full foiling ability, though we will retain both full foil and skimming options to test. The changes will slightly delay the boat's schedule, but we still expect to be sailing it by the end of May.

                    Obviously we are a little behind the eight ball on the foiling aspect of the AC72, but we have a sailing team that is suited as well as any other team to take on the challenge. I have been so impressed with our helm Nathan Outteridge, who mastered the foiling Moth to win their Worlds, and then to win the gold medal in the 49er skiff at the 2012 Games. In all the discussions we've had, he has been exceedingly confident in addressing these design needs now rather than use the time on the water. He believes the sailing team will figure it all out when the boat is ready.
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                    Part 2 of this interview will be in the Monday edition of Scuttlebutt. Video: http://tinyurl.com/GoZags-022813
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                    • #55
                      [yes, my best recollection of that was the two 72s were making a run from the bridge east and artemis was in the lead and right on her heels was oracle, foiling all the way behind her. so strange to see that as you'd think.....

                      a lousy pix but foiling (or not) can be easily seen

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                      • #56
                        ARs foiling AC45 takes a nap.

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                        • #57
                          Big Red awaiting crew for todays sail.

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                          • #58
                            They sailed in South Bay today.
                            It was hard to tell if they achived lift off (foiled) or not.

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                            • #59
                              Any sightings of hull 2?

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                              • #60
                                The only Artemis foiling boat to date comes out of the water for a rinse and dry.

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