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  • Finn No Longer Oly Class

    It’s a sad day today. The Finn was dropped from the 2024 Olympic Games in Paris. There will no longer be a boat available for men over 85 kg at the Olympics. The vote was just cast and it’s possible USA’s Gary Bodie was the swing vote. You would think with few medals won by the US in the past few Olympics they would want to keep the Finn but it is not so. As Olympic sailors we are led to believe the administrators will look out for us while we are told to, “improve your boat speed, etc. and become a better sailor.” But it seems as a sailor I should of been more involved in the process.

    There seems to be a feeling amongst US decision makers as false as it maybe new Olympic Classes increase our ability to win medals and historically this isn’t true:

    FX new in Rio no medals
    Nacra new in Rio no medals
    Women’s match racing 2012 no medals

    Countries with government funding have more money to invest in new Olympic Classes and end up succeeding.

    It’s a sad day the longest standing Olympic Class and one to produce greats like Peter Harken, Ben Ainslie, Russel Coutts will no longer exist.

    Caleb Oliver Paine



    A Mixed Two Person Keelboat Offshore will feature at the Paris 2024 Olympic Games after World Sailing's Council voted in favour of replacing it with the Mixed One Person Dinghy.

    The decision happened at World Sailing's 2018 Annual Conference in Sarasota, Florida, USA during the first of a two day meeting of World Sailing's Council.

    A lengthy morning debate on the adoption of an Offshore event replacing the Mixed One Person Dinghy was held before a decision was made. Although Council made the decision, it will still require ratification by delegates at the Annual General Meeting.

    Further decisions were made on Equipment and criteria for Paris 2024.

    Paris 2024 Olympic Events

    At the 2018 Mid-Year meeting the following slate of Events was approved by Council:

    Men's Windsurfer
    Women's Windsurfer
    New Event, Mixed One-Person Dinghy
    New Event, Mixed Two Person Dinghy
    New Event, Mixed Kiteboard

    They joined the following Events and their Equipment on the Paris 2024 slate:

    Men's One Person Dinghy - Laser*
    Women's One Person Dinghy - Laser Radial*
    Women's Skiff - 49erFX
    Men's Skiff - 49er
    Mixed Two Person Multihull - Nacra 17
    *subject to separate equipment re-evaluation

    Although the decision was made, World Sailing's Regulations allowed both the Events and Equipment to be amended if 75% of Council members voted in favour of making the change.

    A lengthy debate on Submission 037-18 was held by members of the Council. The submission proposed that a Mixed Two Person Keelboat Offshore Event replace the Mixed One Person Dinghy.

    31 Council members voted in favour of voting on change, eight were against and two abstained. As the 75% minimum was exceeded Council then voted on whether to approve the submission which would introduce the Mixed Two Person Keelboat Offshore into the Paris 2024 Olympic Games.

    29 Council members voted in favour of the Mixed Two Person Keelboat Offshore with nine against and two abstentions.

    The decision will go to Sunday's Annual General Meeting for ratification.

    Paris 2024 Equipment

    Ahead of the Conference, World Sailing received submissions related to Equipment criteria for the Paris 2024 Olympic Sailing Events that were approved at the 2018 Mid-Year Meeting:

    Men's Windsurfer
    Women's Windsurfer
    New Event, Mixed One-Person Dinghy
    New Event, Mixed Two Person Dinghy
    New Event, Mixed Kiteboard

    Submissions were also received on the Mixed Two Person Keelboat Offshore should the Event be introduced to the slate.

    Council discussed the Equipment Committee's recommendations and decided that the RS:X would be retained for the Men's and Women's Windsurfer subject to a separate equipment re-evaluation.

    The Mixed Kiteboarding will be on a foiling board with a RAM-Air (foil-kite) and the Mixed Two Person Dinghy will be a non-foiling displacement boat with a headsail, mainsail and spinnaker.

    Following the Mixed Two Person Keelboat Offshore replacing the Mixed One Person Dinghy, Council voted on the Offshore Keelboat Equipment. At Paris 2024 the boat used will be a displacement monohull (non-foiling) with a shorthanded deck layout. The boat will be between 6-10 metres in hull length, able to perform in 4 to 40 knots with a proper sail inventory for all conditions and be a sloop rig with a spinnaker.

    Equipment trials for the Mixed Kiteboarding, Mixed Two Person Dinghy and Mixed Two Person Keelboat Offshore will follow with the decision on the Equipment to be made at the 2019 Annual Conference.

    President's Report

    World Sailing President Kim Andersen opened the meeting by delivering the President's Speech. Andersen reflected on his presidency following his election in November 2016 and gave Council members an update on what the World Sailing Board have been working on.

    Andersen touched on a wide variety of topics from sailing in the Paralympic and Olympic Games to events, finances and governance.

    The President's Report will be available to view on YouTube shortly following YouTube's processing of the feed.

    Paris 2024 Update

    Jean-Philippe Gatien from the Paris 2024 Organising Committee for the Olympic Games (OCOG) delivered an update on the vision for the Games.

    Gatien, a four-time Olympian and two-time medallist in table tennis, sailed the 105ft trimaran Sodebo Ultim back from Brazil to France following the Transat Jacques Vabres.

    He gave an update on the Marseille venue and the next steps for how the OCOG and World Sailing will work together. He also took questions from Council members.

    The meeting continues on 3 November with a continuation of the discussions around submissions and subsequent decision making. Numerous committee and event reports will also be received.
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  • #2
    Gary Bodie sucks but it the Fin is pretty outdated at this point.
    Pointing like a traffic cop, footin like a track star.


    • #3
      Not Finn-ished Just Yet

      Open Letter to Delegates at the World Sailing AGM - a plea from the Finn Class

      The Finn class has been part of the Olympics since 1952. It is an undeniable and integral part of the history and culture of the Games and has created more stars of the sailing world than any other class.

      It is not only the last bastion of the ‘great’ Olympic classes but also one of the most popular, refined and challenging dinghy classes in the world. It is immediately attractive because it reminds everyone of the countess heroes who have passed through the class and won medals at the Olympics.

      Following Friday’s Council meeting, the Finn class is very disappointed by the choices made and the way Submission 37 was introduced and seemingly steamrolled through. The class not only feels very dismayed by the whole process over the last year, but also that the Olympic classes decisions are moving in a counter-productive direction.

      This reaction has been shared by thousands of Finn sailors and shocked sailing supporters across the world since Friday's decision. In decisions of this nature, it is never going to please everyone, but this has caused huge concern across the sailing world.

      Dinghy sailing has been the mainstay of the Olympic regatta since the 1980s, after most keelboats were gradually dropped because of the huge expense involved. In 2012 and 2016 there were seven dinghy classes. In Paris 2024, under the current proposed slate, there will be just five dinghy classes – half the total slate. Aside from the massive change and expense for sailors and MNAs to invest in new equipment, the slate is moving away from the core of the sport. In the 2018 Youth Olympic Games there were no dinghy classes. The pathway for a developing grassroots dinghy sailor is getting narrower and narrower.

      The pinnacle that so many great small boat sailors have aspired to for generations, the Finn, may no longer be an option, so sailors over 85 kg have no pathway to the Olympics and that would be a huge loss to the sport.

      To say a Finn sailor should sail a keelboat, or even switch sport to kite surfing is at best, misguided. Only a very few will be selected or have support for the vastly expensive keelboat programme. Most will be overlooked, as nations will choose their offshore heroes in preference.

      Whatever way you look at it, the keelboat will be hugely expensive; potentially as much cost to an MNA as all the other classes put together and will limit participation to a very select few sailors and nations. The dreams and hopes of hundreds of young Finn sailors across the world will be dashed.

      So this is an impassioned plea from Finn sailors to save the Finn, and probably the 470 as well, as the only measurement-controlled classes left in the Olympic programme.

      At the AGM on Sunday, MNA delegates will have a choice to sign off the Council recommended slate of events and change the face of Olympic sailing forever, or it can ask whether this is actually the best decision for the sport?

      While the Finn Class acknowledges that the Mixed One-Person was a step into the unknown, so is the Mixed Kite, and even more so is the Mixed Keelboat.

      With the Mixed Keelboat, the costs are unknown, the logistical, media production and security problems are unknown and the overall viability is unknown. The sheer cost of mounting a campaign is so far beyond most of the smaller nations that it immediately limits participation and becomes a rich-man’s game – the same reason that many of the keelboats were dropped in the past. Do we not learn from the past?

      Further, along with the Lasers going to sea trials, equipment for seven classes will only be decided by November 2019, which is only two and a half years before the first Paris 2024 Olympic trials. MNAs should delay the decision for 2028 and use the little time ahead to test all the new chosen equipment.

      In addition, at a time when World Sailing has not completed its own anti-trust review programme and is under investigation by the European Commission for possible anti-trust infringements, would it not be prudent to delay further decisions until that review is completed?

      There is another choice open to delegates at the AGM – a vote for no change at the present time to keep the 2020 Olympic sailing events for 2024. We would urge all delegates to seriously consider whether losing the Finn is in the best interests of the sport.

      Please think of the sailors.
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