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  • Can we coexist with America's Cup races?

    The many folks that put in countless hours (counting them is too depressing) to organize races for us local folk have been asking this question since Larry's gang won the cup a couple of years ago. The question is still unanswered.

    Based on announcements today the Louis Vuitton challenger races are under way with the two of the three boats that are in one piece. They (Luna Rossa and ETNZ) are scheduled for a race this Saturday, first race that actually has two boats and the first race on a weekend.

    Last fall Ahi went out for a couple of the days of AC World Series with the small cats. The scene was reminiscent of recent fleet weeks with a similar smaller box and relatively organized chaos in the spectator fleet on the edges. Outside of the spectator fleet looked like an average summer day with boats going every which way doing a reasonable job of avoiding each other.

    For the big cats we have a bigger box:

    http://www.americascup.com/en/sanfra...where-to-watch

    OYRA has our Jr Waterhouse race this Saturday with a roughly 10am start at Little Harding, out the gate to points as yet undecided, finish at Richmond YC. There was very brief discussion of making Little Harding and Angel Island marks of the course for the return trip (leaving both to the south, forcing the fleet into Raccoon Strait) but we decided we would leave the course unchanged giving racers the option on how they get to Richmond (Raccoon or Pt Blunt). Our fleet is probably going to be about 20 boats and we should be spread out by over an hour by the time we are coming back in so we expect little or no impact to or from the spectator fleet. We could be wrong.

    The folks responsible for the PC Second Half Opener (usually TI, out to Pt Bonita, down the Estuary) have decided to err on the side of caution and keep the fleet out of the main part of the bay and instead spend the whole weekend south of YBI. Many alternatives were considered including swapping races with CYC which does a later PC weekend (CYC had a conflict), just staying north of Alcatraz (which was a problem since the space between TI and SF is also partially restricted), and others that were even less practical. This PC race is different than OYRA since it is likely about 100 boats much more tightly packed, and it was decided that the risks of running 100 boats right on the edge of the restricted area were too great. They could be wrong too.

    The woodies (WBRA) who are mostly in the SF marina are worried they won't be able to get in and out of the harbor to get to and from their races no matter where they are held. They really like sailing on the city front but are doing their best to adapt.

    The AC Event Authority has been less than helpful. They are after all in the business of running races (or is it running a TV show?) and their calendar basically has every day between now and the end on 9/22 set up as either a race day or a reserve day regardless of whether they have boats to sail on that day. They have effectively reserved the city front 'box' for the summer.

    The reason for this post is not to ask your opinion since I'm sure you will give it anyway, but to try and collect data on what the hell the main bay looks like while the circus is in town. Please share your observations either coming, going or during a race; from a spectator spot on the beach; even from a red power boat looking through the camera lens.

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    I decided to go with crew for this one, if nothing more than to have a second pair of eyes. I'm sure we'll need a beer (at least) by the time we get back to RYC - maybe a Valium.

    Our (SSS) Half Moon Bay Race is 8/17, the first day of the LVC Finals. We talked last night about options for the starting area. At least it's only the start we have to worry about.

    September 22, eh? It's going to be a long Summer. Thanks for all the extra work Andy (and everyone else). I propose a 20% salary increase . . .

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    • #3
      My worry about the South Bay PC Series race is that it's going to be an unpredictable and likely windless wasteland. But I'll be there with the little guys on board - at least we won't be too frightened to launch the kite. I best make sure the video games are fully charged and there is plenty of junk food in case we have to wait for tides to slosh us around the course.

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      • #4
        as a spectator during the last two "races", the bay has looked quite empty. i was standing just east of the stfyc. other times i was at the beach of crissy field about 1007ft west of the stfyc. sailing vessels departing the marina harbor before and after races and the only thing is that an official AC-boat will chase down tour boats who dont stay within the transit lane boundaries. yesterday i was watching a very small fishing boat motoring westward and i THOUGHT it was in the TL but as a AC-boat came quickly his way, he veered port and into the TL. otherwise, quite quiet on the bay. good luck and happy safe sailings!!!

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        • #5
          They have moved the races up to get lighter winds and keep "Flash Max" and company safe from the notorious 20 knot winds!
          They seem to be pulling marks early, around 1:00 PM. Only question is, are the dunderheads sporting course marshall hats still chasing boats
          away for hours afterwards?

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          • #6
            yes, they are still chasing boats off. as soon as races are gone, they start yanking away the marks, no marks available even for practice races

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            • #7
              The spectator fleet looked pretty thin today from the helo shots. What was it like on the water?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Wet Spreaders View Post
                The spectator fleet looked pretty thin today from the helo shots. What was it like on the water?
                As busy along the line as I need it to be, with only one to steer and keep lookout.

                W. of Alcatraz the patrol boats were keeping everyone 0.25 nm N of the official boundary line, and there was a big fishing boat from the USCG Auxiliary zigzagging and careening around to keep you on your toes. E. of Alcatraz there were two or three very big NZ sailing hospitality yachts that were inside the published boundary, and also within the race course boundary, as you can see on Live Line, looking at the replay on YouTube.

                Still a lovely day out there, and fun to do once. I'll try from the shore next time.

                At about 11:40, a little NW of Alcatraz, the TWS was showing solid 20 - 23 kts, I thought for a while that might be a problem, but it eased off a bit after that, and maybe on the course itself it was less also. Nobody tried to anchor W. of Alcatraz, as I have seen people do in Fleet Week.

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                • #9
                  I'll probably do the spectator thing on the water a couple of times before the end of the summer. My guess is that setting up to see the start, and then a gentle downwind sail to the finish is probably the most comfortable way for guests to see the event. Other ideas (no dodger on the boat, and a rather unsatisfactory anchor)?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Wet Spreaders View Post
                    The spectator fleet looked pretty thin today from the helo shots. What was it like on the water?
                    A bit crowded at the bottom, looked more spacious at top above Alcatraz...at 13:10 the coasties came on the radio and declared "all Americas Cup restrictions are
                    now lifted", and the bay returned to its wake filled self...
                    " I just found out my nest egg has salmonella"



                    h2oshots.com Photo Gallery

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Wet Spreaders View Post
                      I'll probably do the spectator thing on the water a couple of times before the end of the summer. My guess is that setting up to see the start, and then a gentle downwind sail to the finish is probably the most comfortable way for guests to see the event. Other ideas (no dodger on the boat, and a rather unsatisfactory anchor)?
                      WS, I can loan you the Danforth from hell (you supply the chain, I'll even loan you the 200' of nylon rode from hell) if you need a real hook.

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